we had the election which impacted whether obama care was going to stick around now. the law of the land, looks like it will stay. although you read thing about other challenges, i don't know how likely that is. but for most of the year were people assuming it was going to stand up to all of these? >> actually, for most of the year i think people were thinking it was going to be overturned. especially around the supreme court. >> yeah. >> and there was also the presidential election. and you saw a lot of movement around, you know, these events. >> what finally benefited it when it became clear it was going into effect? >> managed care. >> is that going to continue? >> did well. and hospital did well. but that was offset by economic factors. yes, likely to continue for both. i think depending on economics, and that will be dan -- dan's will but hospitals will be more dependent on economics. >> managed care gets $30 million now? >> $30 million in 2014. we may drift for a while in managed care before we get to '14. and pharma is all about drugs, new drugs, new profits. >